anti-kin: being kin is unhealthy otherkin: *provide instances where they talked to mental health professionals about being kin in which their therapists said that there’s…

Someone: Otherkin is such a ridiculous concept I can’t believe people are serious about it 99% of actual otherkin: Yeah that’s valid we’re really weird…

So I’m aware that you can’t choose your kintype, but I have a bit of a question. See, I’m still new to the community and terms, though I’ve been awakened for years. I am a Cybertronian who lived and died as a member of the Decepticons. But in the course of living this life, I’ve had a very different set of experiences, and don’t agree with those ideals or goals anymore. I know I used to be one, but I don’t consider myself a Decepticon any longer. Does that count as me “choosing” who I am?

That absolutely doesn’t count as ‘chosing your kintypes’, it counts as choosing to determine your own future and ideals. Maybe you can call yourself a cybertronian…

while tagging as kin irks me, the thing that pisses me off is that some otherkin feel like they are entitled to crop/edit an artists work to use as reaction pics in their posts. an otherkin that seems pretty popular does it and i have sent her polite asks about it before and surprise, no response! way to show you know what you’re doing is wrong and that you don’t give a shit about artists.

People using other artists fanart as reaction images is definitely rude. If you display another artist’s work, give credit at least, and try to seek…

About tagging art as me I don’t understand because I don’t do this as otherkin but because i identify with a character, same as other fandom people tagging as my son, my husband, my child, etc. I thought this was the same as tagging with your love for a character so I’m so confused, I was happy to see that in fandom you can tag your love and fascination for a character or show and I thought tagging me was another way to do this, not a kin thing. I see non kin doing that too with fanart.

Its good to see I’m not the only one with a confused perspective on the phenomenon. Before the outcry, I wouldn’t have known that people…

Thank you for your reply, I understand and it’s a good point but I think that while classifications are good to make things clear dividing a small community with close experiences in two against the wishes of some of them is not ideal. I also think the otherkin community wants only people who believe it’s an spiritual thing lately, I mean between coping kin and people who believe being kin is psychological or anything not spiritual there isn’t such a big diference and both tend to be excluded.

I think its important to share space- but I also think its important to have dedicated spaces to both. We have similar experiences, and a…

I believe healthy multiplicity is real and your anon is missing the point, psychology is supposed to explain the workings of the mind not own them and only allow for their worldview to exist, so please don’t assume I’m one of those anons, but I think that what people like the anon are doing to you reminds me of what otherkin like you do to other kin, you define who can be part of the community by your views, like being against coping kin, according to my worldview as kin that is possible.

Sorry this took me longer to get to! You have a point! The difference is that I absolutely believe that copingkin exist as a phenomenon…

Other sources beyond Vessiere’s study include: Multiplying models: Personal identity, dissociation and the possibility of healthy multiplicity by Gale, Lindsey and Alterity: Learning polyvalent selves, resisting disabling notions of the self by Walker, Wayland. We can gather from these that healthy multiplicity is indeed A Thing that happens. What we -cannot- gather is what causes it. To label all non-DID or DDNOS systems as imitation systems or BPD is a huge oversight and logically unsound.

how is telling you the literal definition of something applying the standards of a disorder? i’m telling you what a term specific to a disorder means. you’re clearly not listening. being multiple means that there’s dissociative barriers between personality states. if that’s not your experience, why are you using that label for yourself? actually answer the question, you keep avoiding it.

I am using the label for myself because the label applies to me. The label multiple applies to me, because I am a member of…

I wonder if multianon has any sources that can prove that being a singlet is inherently healthy. Probably not, since healthiness in singlets is something implied. I don’t know why it’s suddenly so unbelievable in the context of multiple systems that they wouldn’t have clinically significant distress as a result of being multiple (which according to the DSM 5 is the key defining factor of what makes someone disordered in the first place).

Good point!